28" DR's for the street

[kay9]

I am thinking of running rear DR's full time, with the exception of winter. (if you can call that here in Az)

These will just be on the street and not the track.

My rims are 17x8 and i am currently running 28.9" tires (275/55/17's). Would like to keep my current fronts since there is plenty of tread life.

I live in a division that has about 4 miles of graded dirt road to and from my property.

So with that infomation what 28" DR's do you recommend for street use that can provide sufficent traction and SOME protection with every day road use elements?

Umm this will be on a 4/6 drop with caltracs, rear sway bar and no front sway bar.

Thanks.

[Gary's Hemi]

Get the 325/45 m&h's. They are a lil harder than the mt's so that will be better for the street. I plan on running that tire full time too. Fuck 20's at this point lol

[LETHAL HEMI]

Get the 325/45 m&h's. They are a lil harder than the mt's so that will be better for the street. I plan on running that tire full time too. Fuck 20's at this point lol

you think that tire can handle the power of my truck on bottle

[Gary's Hemi]

Idk. I was turned off on m&h tires for a while. That 1st set i had, man what an f'n joke they were. The 275/50's, they were so narrow it was just laughable. I killed them w/in a couple months & stuck w/ micky's ever since. I would run the 295's on the street but they are a lil short. I have a pic w/ the 295's on 1 side i will post later. I like the look but for the street maybe something just a lil taller

[kay9]

Looking at those but was not sure due to my rim width. Maybe 315/45 m&h's.. Umm to short.

[Gary's Hemi]

Looking at those but was not sure due to my rim width.

They are almost the same as the 295/45's & i have the 295's on my durango rims.

[hemi_loredo03]

I'd like to roll on some M&H 390/40/17s full time

[Gary's Hemi]

I'd like to roll on some M&H 390/40/17s full time

Like on a set up like Randy's where they tuck in....Nice! Lol

[kay9]

Awesome. I'll check out the prices for the 325/45's.

[dline]

nittos last on the street

[Spedly]

I wouldn't drive a mt or M&h on a dirt road that has rocks in it. They have almost 0 puncture resistance. You can expect 5000 miles at most from the m&h's and even less from he mt's. Nittos are probably your best bet.

[Onebadbee]

nittos have a tire that is that tall ??

[Spedly]

only in a 18 and 20 inch wheel it looks like.

[Onebadbee]

all there good drag /street tires are to small
i wonder if i ran some mickeys vs the slicks would i get better times up top

[ivegotcows]

Nitto makes good stuff. I like almost all their products

[kay9]

Going with the Nittos would mean staggered with 18's in the rear and 17's on the front. I am not planning for any track time for 3-4 months so i might as well throw in the 488 gears and have fun. Better chance in getting rid of my 4:10's and using that towards 4:56's down the road.

[05DodgeDakota]

I was wondering myself how long M&Hs would last on the street

[rocketman]

Has anyone put the M&H 325/45/17's on a stock Ram rim? Stock rims are 7 or 8 inches wide, and 11 inch is suggested. Wondering if the tire is much to wide for stock rims. 275 will work, but not wide enough tread.

[sldhemi]

I wouldnt put a 325 tire on anything less than a 9.5" or 10" wheel

[Gary's Hemi]

Here are the specs of the 2 tires:

325/45 m&h
Comparable Race Size 10.5/28.0R17

# Tread Width: 10.3"
# Section Width: 12.1"
# Diameter: 28.0"
# Circumference: 88.0"
# Rim Size: 9.0" - 11.0"

295/45 mt:

Approved rims 9.5" to 11".
Measuring rim 10"
Sidewall width 11.6"
Tread width 10.6"
Overall diamter 27.2"

So the 325 sidewall is .5" wider than the 295's but the 295's have .3" more thread on the ground than the 325's. The only thing that makes the 325 appealing is its a true 28" tall tire. But the 295's have more tread on the ground & are ALOT stickier so IMO its the 295's hands down

Here are my 295's on my durango rims

[coley 1334]

I'd like to roll on some M&H 390/40/17s full time

u and me both :cheers:

[rocketman]

295's look good Gary. Thanks for the pictures.

[Onebadbee]

Here are the specs of the 2 tires:

325/45 m&h
Comparable Race Size 10.5/28.0R17

# Tread Width: 10.3"
# Section Width: 12.1"
# Diameter: 28.0"
# Circumference: 88.0"
# Rim Size: 9.0" - 11.0"

295/45 mt:

Approved rims 9.5" to 11".
Measuring rim 10"
Sidewall width 11.6"
Tread width 10.6"
Overall diamter 27.2"

So the 325 sidewall is .5" wider than the 295's but the 295's have .3" more thread on the ground than the 325's. The only thing that makes the 325 appealing is its a true 28" tall tire. But the 295's have more tread on the ground & are ALOT stickier so IMO its the 295's hands down

Here are my 295's on my durango rims

this is the tire i want gary

[dline]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-345-40-17-Toyo-TQ-Drag-Radial-Race-Tires-345-40R17-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255bfe1360QQitemZ16045 7167712QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fTires

[Gary's Hemi]

Damn i wonder how those would hook.

[johnnyk416]

Just an FYI no drag radial is street legal, they have a D.O.T. rating only to be able to run street class.

Check all there websites and in the fine print it will say not street legal.

[Gary's Hemi]

I could give a crap about street legal. Im about to be driving to the track on hoosiers lol

[johnnyk416]

I could give a crap about street legal. Im about to be driving to the track on hoosiers lol

I hear ya..........just posting up an FYI. Could care less what ya wanna do, but when ya get usted ya can't say ya didn't know...... thats all:gives:

[Gary's Hemi]

I hear ya..........just posting up an FYI. Could care less what ya wanna do, but when ya get usted ya can't say ya didn't know...... thats all:gives:

It will be alright i promise lol. I have been pulled over several times w/ my dr's over the yrs & they never even say anything about them.

[kay9]

Would there be much of a visual height difference with 275/55/17's on the front and the 345/40/17's in the rear, or wise to have higher fronts than the rear?
Man...27" tires as dailys. Flatbed guy was cursing trying to load my truck on his flatbed and i am running 28.9" tires on a 4/6.

Have thought about just getting some rear 28" Blizzak lm-25 snow tires but i am second guessing now.

[kay9]

Well i think i am going to end up getting some 18x9 Procomp 1079 alloys and have them wrapped with NT555R 305/45/18.

Run them with my current 17x8 front rims w/ 275/55/17 Toyos and then decide if i want to upsize the fronts to 18's with cheap tires or just get 17x9 Procomp 1079' and keep using the Toyos.

[LETHAL HEMI]

Im thinking of running some M&H tires cause ive been seeing some of the E/T the LX cars are running and some have gotten 1.5 50FT with M&H 275/50

[hemi_loredo03]

Seems like the LX's preferrence are the M&Hs and for the Rams the preferrence is Mickey Ts. But Randy has proven his 390s M&Hs

[LETHAL HEMI]

Seems like the LX's preferrence are the M&Hs and for the Rams the preferrence is Mickey Ts. But Randy has proven his 390s M&Hs

with the new set up im going to try the M&H

[coley 1334]

Seems like the LX's preferrence are the M&Hs and for the Rams the preferrence is Mickey Ts. But Randy has proven his 390s M&Hs

yea ur old mickeys Ts work great on my truck :devil:

[hemi_loredo03]

no shit? they ended up in your hands? best beat my PB in them 8.46 @ 84 mph! haha :D

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg30/madcat1/HTC/Redline%203_01_09/?action=view&current=MOV03041.mp4

[kay9]

Whats a common (cheap) size 18" tire size to look for fronts that closely match the height of the 305/45/18's

[austin4.7]

go to tire.com and put in 96 ram and look for 18in size for that it should be around a 30 and then start going down sizes or google tire calculator and the miata one works pretty good

[kay9]

Will do. Thanks for providing a starting point.

[austin4.7]

depending on popularoty

255/50/18 = 28in
255/55/18=29in

running a lil narrow for the front

50 series is expinsive performance i mean really expensive

55 series seems popular but they are a lil pricey but performance tires

[austin4.7]

245/55/18 is right at 28.6 witch woul;d be perfect if its available and cheap

radial t/a are $83 a piece from tire.com and it seems bfg makes a few and maybe you can find a hookup somewhere

[adamsredlines]

255/55/18 is pretty common, can be had for around 100/tire. That's the size I have on my Magnum (Nitto 420S)

[austin4.7]

i edited both posts after finding some quick pricing

[austin4.7]

235/55 and 235/60 are geting back in the pricier tires. ide stick w/ the 245/55/18 bfg radials and/or look for used

[Onebadbee]

i looked at this route as well but rim weight means slower time

but since i got my time i guess i can look into this again

thanks for doing the ground work kay9

[austin4.7]

rim wieght? you know centerline has discount wheels that are lighter then the durangos and are 18s and ask dline how much his boyds wiegh. if your willing to invest a lil and not just buy eagle or other steel/offroad wheels you can get a 18in tire/wheel setup that wieghs less then durango or any other factory alm wheel

[otter1363]

I pulled my best time with 17" steel wheels.

[Onebadbee]

i looked at the centerlines and just didnt like any designs but i would buy the 6 hole centerline
http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_deals_detail.php?id=12923&type=vehicle&data=10

awesome wheels but only 3 lbs for 18 vs 17 and 800 bucks

[austin4.7]

i looked at the centerlines and just didnt like any designs but i would buy the 6 hole centerline
http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_deals_detail.php?id=12923&type=vehicle&data=10

awesome wheels but only 3 lbs for 18 vs 17 and 800 bucks

your gonna pint them black anyways the design shouldnt matter much just find the lightest and cheapest and all the other billet wheel are light but they are also pricy

[austin4.7]

those arent bad and for 200 a wheel and forged and only wiegh 22lbs thats a damn good price

ide get the ultra smoothies and paint them black.. theres an oldschool chevy w/ them in 20s black and it looks fuking sick

[Onebadbee]

might be something to look into

sell all my off roads and slicks and just run these full time

[otter1363]

you can always throw an adapter on and run pretty much any wheel you want provided you can get the back spacing worked out.

This site http://www.sizeitup.com/app/default.asp?login=1 has a pretty good utility to stuff what ever tire/wheel combo on and see how the sizing works out.

[kay9]

Thanks for the tire sizes. I am looking around for some 245/55/17's right now. Saw a lxofrum post where you could get BFG Radial T/A for $43.00 but to little too late as now they are back up to $63.00 a tire which is still cheap.

I have been considering the Centerline Tomahawk Champ XL's but man they are a pretty penny. Maybe two with the Nitto DR's and drive them with my current 17" rims and tires on the front. Few trips on my dirt road and one wont know the difference. Looks like a 18x8 with 5.0 BS.

DT had a few threads with customer service concerns and long wait times but that was some time ago.

Would love to get everything one shot but can only really spend up to 1000-1100 for rims/tires new or used.

Be nice to just get some M&H 275/50/17 and use them for rears full time and call it a day.

[sldhemi]

Don't trust the weights on centerlines site... My boss bought a set for his car and the fronts weighed 3lbs more than advertised

[kay9]

The Procomps 18x9 weigh around 28lbs but it will allow me to run a 28" Nitto DR and get some puncture resistance due to my area. Also should provide better traction than now since its just spinning when i make any attempt to get on the pedal at a light.
Track will have slicks.

Can't find the weight of dline's Boyd Smoothies 5x5.5.

[LETHAL HEMI]

The Procomps 18x9 weigh around 28lbs but it will allow me to run a 28" Nitto DR and get some puncture resistance due to my area. Also should provide better traction than now since its just spinning when i make any attempt to get on the pedal at a light.
Track will have slicks.

Can't find the weight of dline's Boyd Smoothies 5x5.5.

I might just go back to factory 20's and throw some nitto drag for the street...

jordan wanna trade?????

[dline]

18" tire always tempted me to get 18" oem aspen wheels

[kay9]

What's the weight of your Boyd's dline?

Thanks.

18" tire always tempted me to get 18" oem aspen wheels

[dline]

25

[kay9]

Geez i want them.

[dline]

Im thinking of running some M&H tires cause ive been seeing some of the E/T the LX cars are running and some have gotten 1.5 50FT with M&H 275/50

I'd hope a car would 60ft that

[02_4pnt7]

Here are the specs of the 2 tires:

325/45 m&h
Comparable Race Size 10.5/28.0R17

# Tread Width: 10.3"
# Section Width: 12.1"
# Diameter: 28.0"
# Circumference: 88.0"
# Rim Size: 9.0" - 11.0"

295/45 mt:

Approved rims 9.5" to 11".
Measuring rim 10"
Sidewall width 11.6"
Tread width 10.6"
Overall diamter 27.2"

So the 325 sidewall is .5" wider than the 295's but the 295's have .3" more thread on the ground than the 325's. The only thing that makes the 325 appealing is its a true 28" tall tire. But the 295's have more tread on the ground & are ALOT stickier so IMO its the 295's hands down

Here are my 295's on my durango rims


Well this helps me out!! I have a 275/50r17 m h. I'm wanting a wider Dr in the back. I was also wanting to keep my 275s for the front. Maybe shorten the rim an inch in the front. This is mainly for looks. Would the 295s be a good choice. I'm running the ss/t rims.

[Gary's Hemi]

Im a mt person all the way. I had m&h 275/50's for my 1st set of dr's that was on the truck way back when & there sucked compared to the 275/40's & 295/45's. But other people stand by the m&h's til the end. Its in what ya want i guess.

On a side note about my dr's for street use. I had to take them off. The dr's are already half worn out after a 1000 miles & about 30 passes so i took them off w/ hopes of them lasting longer for the track

[kay9]

How do you think a 305/45/18 DR will go on a 8" wide rim vs 9"?

[kay9]

The 305/45/18 Nittos came in. What's nice in getting from discount tire direct is the cert of repair and replacement which i have already used twice with my Toyos. Gonna be interesting on the street.
:cheers:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/5288280331_93b975089f_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5288276657_da3eebde6a_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5250/5288273881_1765cd97c7_b.jpg

[hemi_loredo03]

Awesome get'em mounted bro!

[Gary's Hemi]

Nice

[kay9]

I don't know how you get decent launches with street tires when you do AFR video runs lol.
Awesome get'em mounted bro!

[hemi_loredo03]

practice practice practice!

[adamsredlines]

Cuz his truck is slow

[hemi_loredo03]

at least its pretty