lightest 2wd quad cab????

[dline]

Ricky is 5000 with the seats.....

Steelhorse has gotten his to 46xx with everything out, same with Randy I think

Fred told me his is 5000 with him in it with everything out....even though his twin at 5400 runs the same times with the same mods

I'm really confused

[SharaDon]

Ya,, I don't believe his weight either.

[dline]

my 07 quad cab 4x4 weighs 5400 something

[SharaDon]

my 07 quad cab 4x4 weighs 5400 something

There ya go. Liar. Ok maybe not a liar. Just doesn't know and doesn't want to know.

It's just mad hp.

[dline]

older dt posts reveals at least 4900 pounds now....or then idk

http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2392423&postcount=28

[SharaDon]

I know the 2wqc can be a light at 4600.

[dline]

yep lighter than my truck ever will be

[dr.ruff84]

thats what kinda strikes me as strange, Everyone boast about having the fastest ram or qc, or 2wd. No one says what they have done for weight reduction. I can put a motor in a shopping cart and say it's a ram 1500 and i will only weigh about 900 lbs.

[Onebadbee]

http://www.gizmag.com/go/4397/

4600 in a quad cab thats amazing

[rumblebee175]

know this is about qc but I was wondering if anyone knew what a sc sb 2wd weighed stock no reductions

[Darell]

4782 lbs for an ST with steel 17's, 1/2 tank gas, vinyl floor, no power options. Add weight for mudflaps. 4600 lbs in a quad cab would not be street legal

[hemigoat]

My 2wd, rcsb is a st. 17in wheels, removed spare and tailgate, dr's in back
weighted 4700 lbs last year at this time at Las Vegas, race weight . Sway bar removed, with moes' slapper bars on. I weigh 275, was in truck, so how about 4425lbs for truck only. Will weigh again next week on same scales for race wt. again.

Don't forget, I am a ST model.:D

[Onebadbee]

i should of got an st model and i would mind demolishing my truck

my truck with tail gate solid tounneau cover all seats crap in the cab shit in the bed weighted 4800 lbs with my old 20's

[kidat46]

bumper replaced with roll pan, hitch assembly removed everything else the same truck weighed 5210 with me in it..I'm 230 lbs....since then front swaybar removed but fatmat installed...I'll go back to the truckstop today and weigh again. 2006 ram slt qc

[dline]

Tim does your truck have those 15 pound frame dampers weights on the frame?

[kidat46]

If they came with the truck their still on. Where exactly are they located?

[dayton hemi]

4760 with me in it on steel 17s, never weighed it with slicks and skinnies and i havent removed those dampners either

[kidat46]

Just weighed it....steer axle 3600 lb...drive axle 1260 lb. Total 4860 lbs. Undoubtedly the previous weight of 4980 lb. included swaybar, rear bumper, and hitch assembly. So I lost 120 lbs removing swaybar, rear bumper, and hitch assembly. If I remove backseat, tailgate, and the 1/2 tank gas truck should weigh in around 4800...throw my azz back in and it's around 5,030 lbs.

[Hemidup]

Just weighed it....steer axle 3600 lb...drive axle 1260 lb. Total 4860 lbs. Undoubtedly the previous weight of 4980 lb. included swaybar, rear bumper, and hitch assembly. So I lost 120 lbs removing swaybar, rear bumper, and hitch assembly. If I remove backseat, tailgate, and the 1/2 tank gas truck should weigh in around 4800...throw my azz back in and it's around 5,030 lbs.

Thank you for wighing your truck the way you did. Thats the way everyone else should too.

3600 on the front and 1260 on the rears give you a 65/35 front to rear weight ratio.....Ouch! That helps with my ideas on making a QC launch better than they do.

[kidat46]

Will QA1"s with their different settings help with the launch?

[jaysHEMI]

A couple of my buddies run QA1's on their Dakota R/T's and swear by them, and I know Gadier has them on his truck.

[sawcut64]

Ricky is 5000 with the seats.....

Steelhorse has gotten his to 46xx with everything out, same with Randy I think

Fred told me his is 5000 with him in it with everything out....even though his twin at 5400 runs the same times with the same mods

I'm really confused

If you're talking Randtx his lowest was 5000lbs. I believe.......

My 2wd, rcsb is a st. 17in wheels, removed spare and tailgate, dr's in back
weighted 4700 lbs last year at this time at Las Vegas, race weight . Sway bar removed, with moes' slapper bars on. I weigh 275, was in truck, so how about 4425lbs for truck only. Will weigh again next week on same scales for race wt. again.

Don't forget, I am a ST model.:D
ST for me too with the same track mods except I remove the passenger seat and console, and I have a roll pan. So if you're truck weighs 4425 I guesstimate mine at 4310ish?

[dline]

on the old site steelhorse posted he got his truck to 46xx something, so i'd assume fred and other californians with the same mods and et are the same weight.

but getting your truck weighed is too hard for some people.

[sawcut64]

on the old site steelhorse posted he got his truck to 46xx something, so i'd assume fred and other californians with the same mods and et are the same weight.

but getting your truck weighed is too hard for some people.

I could go to the dump and weigh it, but I doubt how accurate it would be. Honestly I never really cared how much it weighs, just concentrated on making it faster and removing weight where I could. Knowing how much it weighs isn't going to benefit me one bit, it'll never be car light so why care....

[dline]

cause if your truck is heavier and faser than you know your making some hp

and a weight can also explain why someone is fast too

it also gives you an idea how much weight your able to pull off by seeing others people weight

[sawcut64]

cause if your truck is heavier and faser than you know your making some hp

and a weight can also explain why someone is fast too

it also gives you an idea how much weight your able to pull off by seeing others people weight

I understand that, but the point I was making is I can't take any more weight off without getting drastic so who cares. I doubt I make anymore power then anyone else with my mods, just the tweaks and combo with lots of track time. The launch can make a huge difference.....

[RandTx]

Ricky is 5000 with the seats.....

Steelhorse has gotten his to 46xx with everything out, same with Randy I think

Fred told me his is 5000 with him in it with everything out....even though his twin at 5400 runs the same times with the same mods

I'm really confused

Oh I'm not even close, I weighed in at 5630 in street trim (20's) no spare and no gas.
On 17's drag radials, stripped down as much as I ever got it including all seats gone aside from the drivers seat I can just get at 5000 with me in it and out of gas.
Now I haven't ever taken off the step bars, roll bar, hitch, overload springs.. or bumpers though.
steelhorse is the lightest I know of ,he was under 5K lbs just dropping the spare and tailgate and I'd guess he outweighs me by at least 50-70ls

[dline]

Steelhorse needs to reply to this thread....

[B===D]

Man oh man you guys are funny as shit....

http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2392423&postcount=28

LOL ha ha ha ah ha ha... I know its hard for you guys to read and understand English I was guessing! ROFLMAO What a bunch of busy bodies.....

[B===D]

There ya go. Liar. Ok maybe not a liar. Just doesn't know and doesn't want to know.

It's just mad hp.


Do you really want to get pissy Huh!!!

You sir just went to far!!!!

I don't lie or manipulate people, That's yours and Jerry's Department...

When I do something I take responsibility for what I have done. I don't say you must have installed it wrong or you installer must have screwed up. You must of had the problem before you installed our part... The very best excuse (Did you throw salt over your shoulder before you installed our product????? Or, This is why we don't like for any one else to install our parts; Definition? Your all to stupid to do it yourself...

Yep I see right through you two and I don't care WTF anyone thinks about it.......

You Haven't seen anything yet!!!!

[Hemidup]

Do you really want to get pissy Huh!
You Haven't seen anything yet!!!!

So Loonie, I'll just take that as a threat. :p

[SharaDon]

Do you really want to get pissy Huh!!!

You sir just went to far!!!!

I don't lie or manipulate people, That's yours and Jerry's Department...

When I do something I take responsibility for what I have done. I don't say you must have installed it wrong or you installer must have screwed up. You must of had the problem before you installed our part... The very best excuse (Did you throw salt over your shoulder before you installed our product????? Or, This is why we don't like for any one else to install our parts; Definition? Your all to stupid to do it yourself...

Yep I see right through you two and I don't care WTF anyone thinks about it.......

You Haven't seen anything yet!!!!

?? So are you pissed for Sam
I never would have thought the cam was screwed up when I had used the same company for 5+ yrs with nothing but dead on cams. Better then comp and crane(may they rip)

When I got the cam in my hands and seen for myself, I made a public apologie to Sam on DT. If you can't get over that. Oh well, grow up. I feel bad the whole thing went down the way it did. It's over,,, let it go.

What else you got??

[sawcut64]

So Loonie, I'll just take that as threat. :p

Oooh you better watch out Lonnie, Jerry has a degree in criminal justice and will press charges for 5th degree assault!!! :rolleyes:

[dayton hemi]

i would take this to dt but i got banned damnit

[sawcut64]

i would take this to dt but i got banned damnit

Well as your best bud I guess I could do it for you?

[dr.ruff84]

hey, how about you guys cry about it somemore.

How about you go over to rumblebee.org and have a cry fest over there too.

I feel like im reading the script for "As the world turns"

[dayton hemi]

sing it with me cumbyah

[dayton hemi]

You Haven't seen anything yet!!!!


bring it i got my shovel out after i got banned and started digging at the doorstep of dt, plenty of ammo there

[proudhemi]

hey, how about you guys cry about it somemore.

How about you go over to rumblebee.org and have a cry fest over there too.

I feel like im reading the script for "As the world turns"


My opinion on this is, if you don't like it don't read the thread. I'm not being a smartass, so please don't take it the wrong way.

[jaysHEMI]

My opinion is that every thread shouldn't turn into a shit slinging festival. Hell, at this rate dline should just set up a Rant and Rave forum here on NADodge and just let folks go to town in there. That way folks will know "well, shit...the sissies are slap fighting again" and just leave it alone if they don't want to read it.

Just my $.02, no offense intended to anyone. :D

[B===D]

I don't ever threaten anyone.

And no I'm not pissed for Sam, Sam has nothing to do with what you guys do.... Thats obivous, he's fast.

Think about this, 4x4 Rumble Bee, 392 SharaDon Stroker, How ever much boost you happen to run on any given day. 50 and a 30 shot of N2O and you are still slow by industry standards, There are SRT8 Jeeps with Bone stock 6.1s, with the edition of a Vortech Super Chargers running faster with 10 LBS of boost and the weight is very close to boot. How you guys have bamboozled people into thinking you know what you are doing is beyond comprehension. Every truck you have touched is slow for it's mods or broken down. The Transmissions you have tried to build are junk, The valve bodies are a total waste of money. Leading the way in Hemi Performance. LOL Stick to what the industry has already done follow someone else's formula for goig fast and you might stay in business.
The cam is small potato's compared to the un repairable damage you two have done. Why I ask.. Ego That's why, The Bible speaks of it often
Here is the funny part I never used your company name and everyone who reads this will know exactly who I am talking about....(IMO)

[hemi1569]

Will somebody pour me a beer?

[proudhemi]

So a 4klb 2wd truck with a 370"stroker and a 300shot running a slower time is more impressive???

[dayton hemi]

I don't ever threaten anyone.

And no I'm not pissed for Sam, Sam has nothing to do with what you guys do.... Thats obivous, he's fast.

Think about this, 4x4 Rumble Bee, 392 SharaDon Stroker, How ever much boost you happen to run on any given day. 50 and a 30 shot of N2O and you are still slow by industry standards, There are SRT8 Jeeps with Bone stock 6.1s, with the edition of a Vortech Super Chargers running faster with 10 LBS of boost and the weight is very close to boot. How you guys have bamboozled people into thinking you know what you are doing is beyond comprehension. Every truck you have touched is slow for it's mods or broken down. The Transmissions you have tried to build are junk, The valve bodies are a total waste of money. Leading the way in Hemi Performance. LOL Stick to what the industry has already done follow someone else's formula for goig fast and you might stay in business.
The cam is small potato's compared to the un repairable damage you two have done. Why I ask.. Ego That's why, The Bible speaks of it often
Here is the funny part I never used your company name and everyone who reads this will know exactly who I am talking about....(IMO)

so what is your guy gonna do when chrysler stops selling blocks anymore go start building chevys with the used rods, or be the junkyard queen

[SharaDon]

That's right. SMT6 and sc3815 for tuning and were slow. Really?? Things will change this summer.

You no nothing about transmissions so I'll ignor that.

Ego has nothing to do with it.

[hemi1569]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcpEdmpoNtw

I don't think these are majic, if we are being honest.... Just calling a spade a spade if we are doing that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEx0Op1hiPg

[B===D]

so what is your guy gonna do when chrysler stops selling blocks anymore go start building chevys with the used rods, or be the junkyard queen


What Guy??

[sawcut64]

So a 4klb 2wd truck with a 370"stroker and a 300shot running a slower time is more impressive???

When that particular truck made that pass with a peg leg it is....

[SharaDon]

So we should forget about the ford 9 he had in it.

Nothing against brad. He's good people. (just saying)

[B===D]

That's right. SMT6 and sc3815 for tuning and were slow. Really?? Things will change this summer.

Ya it'll change alright.......

You no nothing about transmissions so I'll ignor that.
LOL I know if they work or not......

Ego has nothing to do with it.
@

[SharaDon]

OK

[sawcut64]

So we should forget about the ford 9 he had in it.

Nothing against brad. He's good people. (just saying)

He had the stocker at the time didn't he? Regardless it was done with the one tire, even you have to acknowledge it was capable of a much lower time....

[dayton hemi]

@

did u mean & cause this is and what you posted was "at"

[SharaDon]

Everyones truck is capable of a lower time. That's the truth.

Brad tried a couple of different gear ratios in his 9in. Did'nt workout. (been there)

But we could also talk about Lou, 550 shot,,, WTF was he thinking. Jmatt went faster with 250 less nitrous on a stock 6.1..... No wonder the motor blew.

[sawcut64]

see this is what i hate. your truck is only as fast as it is. if you run a 14 because you were on street tires. you have a 14sec truck until you go out and run faster. i don't car if it has 1000hp if you can only run a traction limited 14sec pass your trucks only capable of running 14s. The whole thing has to work together not just have the motor make power.


Sorry that just bugs me when people say that.

True you ran what you ran, just makes me wonder what it could have run...

[proudhemi]

I wouldn't say much lower. I'll definately admit it had a faster time in it, but he always had problems getting that truck to hook hard. Going by memory he 60'd in the low 1.7s(on a good run), throwing more power to it will only make it worse. I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. With the power he was making N/A and as light as his truck is he should be 60' much better than a 1.7, and I think that's the best he ever did even when everything was working right. So say he did hit it with the 300 shot with a good rearend, it's not gonna hook. IF he did some more suspension work it would, but if's could go on and on and on. Nothing away from Brad, I always liked him..

[proudhemi]

I was typing all of my last post out, before everyone else pretty much said the same thing i did.LOL

[dline]

its always could've would've should've at the track, or if i did this, or i didn't do this....full of excuses.

go to the track with your eggs all in one basket

[wtford281]

Everyone on here is guilty of the coulda woulda shoulda.
Brad is a good guy, I ran the n/a times and dont care who built the motor. Like everyone said the truck never hooked, I hooked pretty good one time, I think it was like a 1.64? Been a long time. It was still on the stock 9.25 and it needed to be a progressive shot. On spray if it hooked, yeah I know "if", the sharadon truck better up the boost and spray. Yeah, you SHOULDA started with a lighter 2wd. It is what it is though, yall got him even with the big weight disadvantage, so good job?

BUT:

Hemidup, honestly how much do you have in your truck?

[SharaDon]

Everyone on here is guilty of the coulda woulda shoulda.
Brad is a good guy, I ran the n/a times and dont care who built the motor. Like everyone said the truck never hooked, I hooked pretty good one time, I think it was like a 1.64? Been a long time. It was still on the stock 9.25 and it needed to be a progressive shot. On spray if it hooked, yeah I know "if", the sharadon truck better up the boost and spray. Yeah, you SHOULDA started with a lighter 2wd. It is what it is though, yall got him even with the big weight disadvantage, so good job?

BUT:

Hemidup, honestly how much do you have in your truck?

How much$ LOL everyone on these forums that is modding there truck is finacially stupid. I think most know it and don't care. We do these things because it's in our blood. Sort of like a desease. No cure.

Jerry and I both like the fact that his truck is faster then everyone else with the extra weight. It proves, to even the most dim witted. We are making more HP.

6.1 based 392
GS supercharger kit. It's since been changed around and upgraded to the 1500
Dynatech headers
Edge converter
2 stage nitrous (free, thanks Gadier) Had to buy bottle
4 drag radials on off road 17's
Stage 3 trans.
Superchip 3815
SMT 6
66lb injectors
Snow performance W/M
Mopar MP1 intake and fuel rails w/regulator. 2 intake pumps
Cal tracs
Moes driveshaft loop
Trans blanket/transfercase blanket
pml covers.
Hellwig sway bar.

That's it. The rest of the truck is factory fresh. No real magic.

[383HEMI]

BUT:

Hemidup, honestly how much do you have in your truck?

Do you really have to a$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$k?

More HP?? Well Duhhhhhh. Cranking up the boost and spaying nitrous will do that.

[hemi1569]

It is faster than a ferrari f430 f1.... And that is 195,000.... Also takes out the new ZR1... Pretty funny. Plus you can throw a quad in the back.:D

[B===D]

How much$ LOL everyone on these forums that is modding there truck is finacially stupid. I think most know it and don't care. We do these things because it's in our blood. Sort of like a desease. No cure.

Jerry and I both like the fact that his truck is faster then everyone else with the extra weight. It proves, to even the most dim witted. We are making more HP.

6.1 based 392
GS supercharger kit. It's since been changed around and upgraded to the 1500
Dynatech headers
Edge converter
2 stage nitrous (free, thanks Gadier) Had to buy bottle
4 drag radials on off road 17's
Stage 3 trans.
Superchip 3815
SMT 6
66lb injectors
Snow performance W/M
Mopar MP1 intake and fuel rails w/regulator. 2 intake pumps
Cal tracs
Moes driveshaft loop
Trans blanket/transfercase blanket
pml covers.
Hellwig sway bar.

That's it. The rest of the truck is factory fresh. No real magic.


There is no magic...... LOL That truck is slow for what it has done to it period. In case some didn't pass their math class a 392 has more cubes then a 6.1 liter. Glug Glug Glug. Have another drink...

Transmissions that didn't last..

Matt
Gadier
Brad
Ricky
Derrick

I know there are a lot more, But these are the for sure failures....

If I had to guess I'd say the little yellow Rumble Bee has a few smoked transmissions that came out of that piece. I'm sure you all will deny any and all of what I have said. But most of us know this to be true....

Funny how you guys bash other vendors, Diablo and anyone your in direct competition with. The best part of it all is you two cater to the younger group of truck guys. Manipulate and use them to do your bidding.... You two guys are truly a piece of work. Your the one calling the shots, I guess this is the way you like it.... Lies and deceit..
And I quote...
I know my stuff is better than everyone else's it has to be..LOL

You ain't proved it yet....:p

[sawcut64]

Brad seemed pretty happy that his stage 2 trans lasted so long with the abuse he put it through. He also broke a hard part and he has been the only one to break a hard part. Matt smoked his trans with a smt6. So your left with a guy who built his own trans and 2 guys who have run trough a few stock trans too.

Meanwhile...There's at least 3 turbo trucks making way more power then those trucks that are running fine. All those trans's were installed at Sharadon though.

Try again

Well Brad absolutely NEVER did downshifts with that truck, he said that many times. Lots of guys toasted their trans with SMT6/PSC-1 not knowing any better. The problem I see with using Jerry's truck for R&D is it's unlike anyone else's and it doesn't get street miles to speak of. They say that their transmissions can hold up to his power, therefore they should hold up to anyone's. What about lots of part throttle miles and normal driving, Jerry needs to put a good 5000 street miles on his trans with a decent number of drag strip passes before they give it their seal of approval. Something tells me that part throttle driving puts some ugly wear on the transmission when tuners/mods and such are involved........

[wtford281]

I had a big long post typed out for all the cheerleaders both sides, but everyone will believe what they want anyway so I will let everyone keep the wool over their eyes, lol
The sharadon truck is not impressive to me. Nothing to be cheerleading for.
And my buddy smoked a built trans way to fast, the stock lasted 10 times as long with more abuse.
This is not me bashing sharadon just stating some of my experiences. Nothing that has come from the inertia shop is worth cheerleading for either. Yall proceed, lol

[hemi1569]

There is no magic...... LOL That truck is slow for what it has done to it period. In case some didn't pass their math class a 392 has more cubes then a 6.1 liter. Glug Glug Glug. Have another drink...

Transmissions that didn't last..

Matt
Gadier
Brad
Ricky
Derrick

I know there are a lot more, But these are the for sure failures....

If I had to guess I'd say the little yellow Rumble Bee has a few smoked transmissions that came out of that piece. I'm sure you all will deny any and all of what I have said. But most of us know this to be true....

Funny how you guys bash other vendors, Diablo and anyone your in direct competition with. The best part of it all is you two cater to the younger group of truck guys. Manipulate and use them to do your bidding.... You two guys are truly a piece of work. Your the one calling the shots, I guess this is the way you like it.... Lies and deceit..
And I quote...
I know my stuff is better than everyone else's it has to be..LOL

You ain't proved it yet....:p



It says 6.1 BASED 392... Roll another one....

[SharaDon]

There is no magic...... LOL That truck is slow for what it has done to it period. In case some didn't pass their math class a 392 has more cubes then a 6.1 liter. Glug Glug Glug. Have another drink...

Transmissions that didn't last..

Matt
Gadier
Brad
Ricky
Derrick

I know there are a lot more, But these are the for sure failures....

If I had to guess I'd say the little yellow Rumble Bee has a few smoked transmissions that came out of that piece. I'm sure you all will deny any and all of what I have said. But most of us know this to be true....

Funny how you guys bash other vendors, Diablo and anyone your in direct competition with. The best part of it all is you two cater to the younger group of truck guys. Manipulate and use them to do your bidding.... You two guys are truly a piece of work. Your the one calling the shots, I guess this is the way you like it.... Lies and deceit..
And I quote...
I know my stuff is better than everyone else's it has to be..LOL

You ain't proved it yet....:p

Let talk transmissions.

Matt, SMT6 and negative #'s caused overdrive to go away. When the truck came up to us. I changed the #'s to positive and all the gears came back. Yes, there was damadge to the overdrive clutches. But what would you expect.

Gadier killed one with B&G. It's no wonder he's not useing B&G.

Brad broke a hard part.

Ricky,,,, He has something going on with his PCM (ask him) He recently PM'd me on DT and is changing his pcm because everytime he goes into 4th WOT his trans fails. Same thing he did to our trans. ( I still have the PM if needed)

Derrick. ASK him. He also changed his PCM. Magic... no more transmission problems. I told him to change his PCM before driveing on the last transmission. He didn't listen. It failed.

Yet it's our fault.... Get all the facts.

[SharaDon]

BTW,,, I don't drink

[Hemidup]

Will QA1"s with their different settings help with the launch?

QA1's are the cats meow. Especially their 2 way adjustables, but they don't come cheap.

[Hemidup]

It says 6.1 BASED 392... Roll another one....

I think Loonie has more of a problem than just smoking pot. :rolleyes: He must have flunked his Hooked on Phonics class cause he only reads between the lines.

[Hemidup]

Well Brad absolutely NEVER did downshifts with that truck, he said that many times. Lots of guys toasted their trans with SMT6/PSC-1 not knowing any better. The problem I see with using Jerry's truck for R&D is it's unlike anyone else's and it doesn't get street miles to speak of. They say that their transmissions can hold up to his power, therefore they should hold up to anyone's. What about lots of part throttle miles and normal driving, Jerry needs to put a good 5000 street miles on his trans with a decent number of drag strip passes before they give it their seal of approval. Something tells me that part throttle driving puts some ugly wear on the transmission when tuners/mods and such are involved........

You bring up some very good points Sam.

[sawcut64]

I think Loonie has more of a problem than just smoking pot. :rolleyes: He must have flunked his Hooked on Phonics class cause he only reads between the lines.

Hey remember Gonga is now legal in Cali.....don't tell me you never hit a duby back in the day?!?

[Hemidup]

Hey remember Gonga is now legal in Cali.....don't tell me you never hit a duby back in the day?!?

I only puffed, didn't inhale. :D

[SharaDon]

I only puffed, didn't inhale. :D

Wern't you a teenager in the 70's LOL

[B===D]

Let talk transmissions.

Matt, SMT6 and negative #'s caused overdrive to go away. When the truck came up to us. I changed the #'s to positive and all the gears came back. Yes, there was damadge to the overdrive clutches. But what would you expect.

Gadier killed one with B&G. It's no wonder he's not useing B&G.

Brad broke a hard part.

Ricky,,,, He has something going on with his PCM (ask him) He recently PM'd me on DT and is changing his pcm because everytime he goes into 4th WOT his trans fails. Same thing he did to our trans. ( I still have the PM if needed)

Derrick. ASK him. He also changed his PCM. Magic... no more transmission problems. I told him to change his PCM before driveing on the last transmission. He didn't listen. It failed.

Yet it's our fault.... Get all the facts.

See more excuses....

[B===D]

It says 6.1 BASED 392... Roll another one....

Doesn't matter cubes are cubes, quit using your math book to roll the skunk.....

[B===D]

Hemidup, honestly how much do you have in your truck?

He'll never let that cat out of the bag..... He'll probably smack it a few times with a baseball bat though..

Shit I should have let my anger out a long time ago this just feels right.....

My anger mngmnt classes taught me to suppress these feelings....... The truth shall set you free........

[Blackturbotruck]

He'll never let that cat out of the bag..... He'll probably smack it a few times with a baseball bat though..

Shit I should have let my anger out a long time ago this just feels right.....

My anger mngmnt classes taught me to suppress these feelings....... The truth shall set you free........

Gotta pay to play!!!

[Hemidup]

My anger mngmnt classes taught me to suppress these feelings....... The truth shall set you free........

Anger management class? Those are usually court ordered after an assualt charge whether it was public or domestic, or maybe you just volunteered? Why don't you just tell us the truth... it will set you free.

[hemi1569]

An arrington 426 in a gc srt8 on nitrous is still slower than there truck... I don't see your point lonnie?

[B===D]

Anger management class? Those are usually court ordered after an assualt charge whether it was public or domestic, or maybe you just volunteered? Why don't you just tell us the truth... it will set you free.

Uh I have been free for while now and the roses smell good too..... Domestic? I would never hit a woman, Volunteer? I doubt it...... Assault? That would mean I hit someone with out provocation.....

I don't hit people with out provocation..... Are you :confused: Think it through you'll get it..... I'm an Asshole plain and simple.

[sawcut64]

How many 426s is it going to take to get to the 10s?

I'll bet Sharadon does it with the same 392 thats been taking a beating for what 3 years now?

Well a 426 NA is a completely different animal then a supercharged 392 with nitrous.

[sawcut64]

Its a 426 on spray. In a jeep which is a totally different animal.

My point was the 426 is being swapped out after a year for a new 426 but the 392 has been taking an ass whoopin for 3 years and it just keeps on ticking

Okay didn't know that, BUT how many miles on the 426? Jerry probably doesn't have 5K on that 392.

[Darell]

Okay didn't know that, BUT how many miles on the 426? Jerry probably doesn't have 5K on that 392.

I've got 10K on mine.

[hemi1569]

Well a 426 NA is a completely different animal then a supercharged 392 with nitrous.

A 426 with every bolton and nitrous is still slower than the truck

[hemi1569]

Thought he was running a 11.29?? How big of a shot did that jeep get???

[sawcut64]

We'll see what kind of damage I can do when I get that stroker from Stu and toss a little nitrous at it!! :Tup:


I'm diggin' all the new smileys!!!http://horsepowerjunkies.com/smilies/dancingnaughty.gif

[B===D]

The jeep ran 11.1. Its an impressive jeep no doubt but its like comparing a car to the truck they are completely different animals. Until there's another truck going faster with less I don't think there's much of an argument. A 5000lb truck running low 11s regardless of what's done is pretty damn impressive.

If you listen and look real hard you can hear the tranny slipping all the way down the track on the N2O run. Shot size was a 200 using a fogger, Now he has a builder Bill Nag1 so the tranny issues will not be a problem.

He first used a 350 shot and ran slower, Fuckin tranny. So he called me over and we dimised a better combo for the shot size and ran it once I believe.....

[sawcut64]

Someone has a 383 a light truck and a kick ass nitrous setup he just needs to get his butt to the track instead of playing with his guns

X2!!!!!

[dayton hemi]

BTW,,, I don't drink


i can attest to this, i tried to get him to have a beer

[B===D]

i can attest to this, i tried to get him to have a beer

He sure talks like he does..

[hemi1569]

I love :cheers:

[Hemidup]

I've got 10K on mine.

Your's don't count cause your running 12's with a stock 5.7 cam in your 392. :D

[Blackturbotruck]

X2!!!!!

Someones spending alot of time on gun forums and not here still waiting on a response to my PM :finger:

[383HEMI]

??

[Darell]

Your's don't count cause your running 12's with a stock 5.7 cam in your 392. :D

And manifolds. This spring would be a good time to change these.

[Hemidup]

And manifolds. This spring would be a good time to change these.

Thinking about both the intake and exhaust manifolds?

[Darell]

Exhaust yes. Intake if the price is right. I'm stuck right now looking for a Garrett GT76 or GTS76 for less than retail. ($4000+) Anyone have connections?:D

[adamsredlines]

There's a GTK850 on Bionic...not sure how that compares to what you need though....
http://www.bionicdodge.com/bionic/index.php?topic=8768.0

[Hemidup]

Exhaust yes. Intake if the price is right. I'm stuck right now looking for a Garrett GT76 or GTS76 for less than retail. ($4000+) Anyone have connections?:D

Call Tim.

[Darell]

Call Tim.

I searched for 'Tim' on the internet and found nothing. (I don't know who he is) At this point twinning my current setup will cost 1/2 as much.

[Canadian Hemi]

I searched for 'Tim' on the internet and found nothing. (I don't know who he is) At this point twinning my current setup will cost 1/2 as much.

Now thats what I like to hear!!!!!!!!!!

[Hemidup]

I searched for 'Tim' on the internet and found nothing. (I don't know who he is) At this point twinning my current setup will cost 1/2 as much.

Mr Mopar.

[Darell]

get a pt94 and crank up the HP:peelout:

60mm x 2 will crank it up too and T60-1 hybrids are dirt cheap compared to the 72 - 82mm units.

[Canadian Hemi]

60mm x 2 will crank it up too and T60-1 hybrids are dirt cheap compared to the 72 - 82mm units.

What are ya waiting for!!!

[B===D]

Exhaust yes. Intake if the price is right. I'm stuck right now looking for a Garrett GT76 or GTS76 for less than retail. ($4000+) Anyone have connections?:D

I do.....

[B===D]

BTW....:superchips: SCT Blows and Diablo Rocks

[rumblebee175]

*liar* It should say Diablo blows....transmissions.

Lmao that one back fired on em

[B===D]

*liar* It should say Diablo blows....transmissions.


It's not Diablo that blows tranny's it's the user. And it looks like we have another brave one behind the computer.

Lets see three different pistons at three different times and it's not SCTs fault or SuperChips. Ok then it must be your fault. Somewhere in all of this is a big lie. So where are all of these fast SCT tuned trucks at? So far it looks like all the SCT tuned trucks need extreme neg DA of -1000' or better just to be fast.

:superchips:

SCT Blows

[B===D]

2 pistons. Gaider seems to have no problem running fast with SCT. Fastgraphit has no problem running with SCT, crazeejay has no problem running fast with SCT Proudhemi is running fast with SCT.


You know what why bother... your right all the fast guys are running diablo. I know there's no telling you different with facts and stuff.

I know SCT is ok but it's just not my cup of tea. Watching the afr bounce all over the place. There's also a few problems that aren't talked about online..... :puke:

[dr.ruff84]

I know SCT is ok but it's just not my cup of tea. Watching the afr bounce all over the place. There's also a few problems that aren't talked about online..... :puke:

Why would problems not being talked about online?

Is there SCT hitman that kill the people to shut them up before they do?

:confused:

[B===D]

Why would problems not being talked about online?

Is there SCT hitman that kill the people to shut them up before they do?

:confused:

LOL There must be!!!

[Onebadbee]

I know SCT is ok but it's just not my cup of tea. Watching the afr bounce all over the place. There's also a few problems that aren't talked about online..... :puke:

:gives:

enlighten me on this story

[B===D]

:gives:

enlighten me on this story

I don't tell stories and if your so inclined do some research.....

[Onebadbee]

be quiet or bring something to the table

dont bring this look it up yourself shit

[dline]

I wish I could figure out how a truck with the same hp mods, runs the same speed with 500 more pounds????

[Onebadbee]

dline has a hard on for throttle bodies

its a hole dline have your ways with it

[dline]

not really :wtf:

[dline]

don't forget all the inertia KR trucks SCT had to fix

i dont need to list them, everyone knows it

[hemi1569]

I hope daytona81's truck turns out ok. He seems like a nice kid.

[dline]

the answer to the original post of this thread is 46xx by steelhorse and dayton hemi, lighter than my truck will ever be.

[rumblebee175]

I hope daytona81's truck turns out ok. He seems like a nice kid.

Yea me too he does seems to be a nice guy and fast as hell too

[B===D]

be quiet or bring something to the table

dont bring this look it up yourself shit

What are you Skeerd?

[B===D]

I wish I could figure out how a truck with the same hp mods, runs the same speed with 500 more pounds????

I wish you could too. LMAO Hey it weighs what it weighs. I didn't offer up my weight someone asked me what it weighed so I weighed it. So go pound sand or what ever you pound.

[proudhemi]

I'm curious to hear about all of the problems myself. I haven't really heard of any.(being serious)

[dayton hemi]

lighter than my truck will ever be.

longer wheelbase too

[Onebadbee]

white hemi your a dumbass you say diablo is perfect your so ignorant to see the tuner from both sides i already said i know sct has had problems but they back there product and customer service descent ppl from diablo call ppl idiots

so you tell me you moron

oh ya 4600 on a quad cab is cool


dont quad cab 2wd have aluminum drive shafts

[kidat46]

My 06 QC has an aluminum driveshaft.

[Onebadbee]

find a wrecked quad cab and make a custom driveshaft would that be possible

[kidat46]

find a wrecked quad cab and make a custom driveshaft would that be possible

After I get the slicks on the rims I'm gonna order a chromoly driveshaft...
http://www.pstds.com/custom_driveshafts.htm#

[Onebadbee]

kidat i should just drive down and pick up all your parts haha

anyways those are to badly priced for aluminum or even chromoly

the quad cab driveshafts are longer from what i measured to make one from a quad cab would be expensive as just buying one

[kidat46]

I'd really like to go to the track as soon as I get the slicks but I'm gonna wait on the driveshaft....I've broken one before and wound up costing around $1,000...differential spun and had to get new gears also. Can't remember exactly but I think the driveshaft cost me around $250 from my dodge dealership

[kidat46]

The QC driveshafts are very thin garbage. I'd go aftermarket to start with.


Kidat don't forget with slicks you need driveshaft loop

What's the best thing to do? Just buy a couple of cheap one's and strategically place them....I've never seen a qc driveshaft loop from a manufacturer

[dline]

You'll have to get a custom one made, theres a place around here that will do it.

See Bob about a moes loop. I'm pretty sure the loop needs to be near the rear of the cab mounting.

[Onebadbee]

yep moes driveshaft loop looks and appears to be well built

[Darell]

yep moes driveshaft loop looks and appears to be well built

I'm very happy with mine. Powder-coated and with all stainless steel hardware. A very stout unit. If I recall, 6" from the forward U-joint is where the loop needs to be. The mount, though, is farther back.

[kidat46]

I'm very happy with mine. Powder-coated and with all stainless steel hardware. A very stout unit. If I recall, 6" from the forward U-joint is where the loop needs to be. The mount, though, is farther back.

Bob's site says it's just for rc's. Any reason why it shouldn't work on QC?

[Darell]

Bob's site says it's just for rc's. Any reason why it shouldn't work on QC?

The mounting plate may not be long enough for the loop to reach the U-joint.

[dayton hemi]

Bob's site says it's just for rc's. Any reason why it shouldn't work on QC?

its a mounting issue because the bracket isnt long enough, i tried to get him to send me one and i was gonna refab it to fit my q/c but just never got around to completing the deal.

[dayton hemi]

damn darrell ya beat me

[Darell]

damn darrell ya beat me

Of course. RC > QC :dance:

[dayton hemi]

i might have to put a 5.7 cam in mine and see what happens

[Darell]

i might have to put a 5.7 cam in mine and see what happens

Don't tell everyone, it my secret weapon. Next year I'm installing a second one.

[dayton hemi]

lol

[steelhorse5778]

Steelhorse needs to reply to this thread....

sorry david been working 12-16 hours a day all damn week. the lightest i have ever gotten it is 4690 at ennis. that was no tailgate, no spare, no step rails, no back seat, no passenger seat/console, no jack and 17's. oh and i did the shroud delete. now that was less than 3 weeks after the nationals and they are supposed to be certified for those events. a couple of weeks earlier with the same weight reduction and a couple of other things i used a cat scale and it said i was 4860. after talking to some people i was told that because of the way those scales are set up they are not accurate at all on passenger vehicles. and since randy's weighed the same at both ennis and houston i would have to say that the ennis scale was correct. with just my spare removed and my tailgate gone i wiegh 4990. hope that helps. i do plan on trying to get down to 4500 in the next couple of weeks just not sure i can i can only think of about 125 i can lose without removing a/c components and power steering stuff. sorry i took so long for me to see the tread but i'm here now and thats what counts.

[JohnnyHemi]

i think around 4900 to 5000 pounds

[proudhemi]

Yeah id agree with that considering 2 posts above yours a guy said he had his down to 46xxlbs.

[hemigoat]

A friend of mine has these for doing his race car i want to get my truck on them

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/LongacreRacingVisionBudgetScales72603/Scales



That is the way we all should scale our track trucks!:)

[HemiRamOn22s]

My truck weighs 5300 lbs in street trim on 22s without me in it 3/4 tank of fuel.

My truck weighs 4980 lbs in street trim on durango 17s without me in it with 1/2 tank of fuel. I could easily get it down to 4700lbs in track trim by taking off my fiberglass tonneau cover, my system, and my tailgate with alot less fuel.

This is an SLT with all the options and leather interior. Add my weight of 180lbs and its close to 4900lbs race weight with me in it if i ever decided to do it.

[JohnnyHemi]

My truck weighs 5300 lbs in street trim on 22s without me in it 3/4 tank of fuel.

My truck weighs 4980 lbs in street trim on durango 17s without me in it with 1/2 tank of fuel. I could easily get it down to 4700lbs in track trim by taking off my fiberglass tonneau cover, my system, and my tailgate with alot less fuel.

This is an SLT with all the options and leather interior. Add my weight of 180lbs and its close to 4900lbs race weight with me in it if i ever decided to do it.

makes me glad i got a BASE MODEL ST with a hemi period...... nothing else except a/c

[Darell]

makes me glad i got a BASE MODEL ST with a hemi period...... nothing else except a/c

Ditto.

[JohnnyHemi]

Ditto.

Plus mines a Reg. Cab

[HemiRamOn22s]

well get to it. you need to get all the weight out you can if you plan on beating me come fall:p
ill have something for you. dont you worry your little heart steve.

[hemi1569]

looks like ray(daytona81) is the lightest quadcab at 4350

[proudhemi]

Pretty sure his truck is a reg cab...

[hemi1569]

Your right heath. I thought he had a qc, was gonna say he knows something we nobody else does!

[daytonahemi392]

my qc 4x4 is 6100#

[Canadian Hemi]

holy shit that thing is heavy! come on over and I'll fix that for ya !!!;)

[HemiRamOn22s]

ill have to weigh my 4x4 QC

[Canadian Hemi]

Did you ever weigh your truck? I had my qc/sb 4x4 weighed last year without me in it, it was 5140lbs (according to the scale).

[HemiRamOn22s]

remind me and ill weigh it on friday

[RandTx]

So did anyone come up lighter than Mike (steelhorse) ?
Think he weighed in at 4630 last Sunday with him in it.
Which puts his truck at about 4350 with no driver an very little fuel.

Should be interesting next Sun. He's planning to do more weight reduction and maybe get close to 4100 lbs curb weight. That will put his race weight, him in it at hopefully less than 4400 lbs.

[JohnnyHemi]

wow he has take a shitload out hasnt he lol

[dline]

Wow thats lighter than i will ever get my regular cab 4x4.... He should get 12s for sure then.

If they can get that light why hasnt anyone got 12s yet?

[dr.ruff84]

what besides the obvious (tailgate, spare, center console) is he taking out to get that low?

[RandTx]

His truck is light to start with.
We both:
take out back seats, console seat, passenger seat, tailgate, front sway bar, both running torque tubes no cats basically no exhaust.

(my truck in that form is about 5K me in it 4825 curb weight. That's with bumpers, hitch, roll bar, bed rug bed liner, step bars.)

My weigh that day was 4950 in time trial with the roll bar removed (had to replace the back glass and hadn't got it back on yet)
End of day 12 passes later after the finals and a little past empty I saw a 4910. (burned 40 lbs of fuel in 12 passes)

Anyway back to Mike's.
He takes out his bed liner. removes his step bars, used to take off his hitch and bumper but has a roll pan now.
That's probably 150 lbs of the 425 lbs difference. most of the remainder is just the difference between an 05 and 06
Although, I do have some options he doesn't.
Lets see I have power pedals, a 34 gallon gas tank, elec slider.electric seat, sirius unit... beyond that I think all all other options are the same.
There might only be about 300 lbs difference between the model years equipped the same.

[RandTx]

Here's a few things I've weighted or gathered weight info for on mine. (06 QC factory tow PKG)

negatives would actually be weight additions

LBS ITEM
85 Spare 20' tire
5 floor mat
20 frame dampeners
97 roll bak tonneau cover
26 bedrug
45 light bar w lights (goindustries)
5 bumper step
60 Tailgate
29 overload springs
40 nerf bars (est)
23 tow hooks
102 rear 60-40 seats w/ fold flat floor
45 passenger seat
35 console seat
100 hitch & bumper (est)
35 Hitch Dampener
8 jack
40 stock muffler, coutout and jog pipe
30 y pipe and cats
20 exhaust exit with resonator and tip
35 front sway bar
-36 caltracs
-20 use stock resonator for a muffler vs no muffler
-10 torque tubes no cats after a ypipe is removed
60 17's on fronts instead of 20;s
60 DR's on rears instead of 20's

[steelhorse5778]

So did anyone come up lighter than Mike (steelhorse) ?
Think he weighed in at 4630 last Sunday with him in it.
Which puts his truck at about 4350 with no driver an very little fuel.

Should be interesting next Sun. He's planning to do more weight reduction and maybe get close to 4100 lbs curb weight. That will put his race weight, him in it at hopefully less than 4400 lbs.

randy how fat do you think i am or is your calculator broke i only wiegh 230 on a bad day and usually 225. that puts my curb wieght this past weekend at 4400 lbs. i have about 150 lbs i know i can drop or at least think i can drop so that would make this next weekend 4250.

[sawcut64]

So did anyone come up lighter than Mike (steelhorse) ?
Think he weighed in at 4630 last Sunday with him in it.
Which puts his truck at about 4350 with no driver an very little fuel.

Should be interesting next Sun. He's planning to do more weight reduction and maybe get close to 4100 lbs curb weight. That will put his race weight, him in it at hopefully less than 4400 lbs.

Mickey doesn't weigh 280 lbs does he?!?! No way, maybe 230...maybe, if so his race weight was 4400 lbs.

[kc1219]

I had a question for the light weight guys-with all the weight taken off of the back of the truck(tailgate,spare,rear bumper),is there any issue with not having enough weight over the rear wheels or any weight distribution problems? what i am getting at is-would that create a traction issue?

[Hemidup]

I had a question for the light weight guys-with all the weight taken off of the back of the truck(tailgate,spare,rear bumper),is there any issue with not having enough weight over the rear wheels or any weight distribution problems? what i am getting at is-would that create a traction issue?

Yes.

[kc1219]

I asked that question becuase I have ran in the past with dr's and the infamous spring clamps(track only) with no wheel hop issues. Would keeping the tailgate on,but in the down position help a little?

[dayton hemi]

mine was 4530 without me in it, minimal gas, all that weight reduction, 5 inch wide front tires and 16 inch slicks on the back

[steelhorse5778]

well to be fair in ansering that question i'm not so sure. i know i've personally taken alot of wieght of the rear end and have not noticed a big traction problem. part of that is because the QC have more wieght on the rear wheels especially on launch. now at the same time i have noticed that my truck spins the tires all the time on the street without me feeling a thing. next time i go to the track i'm going to chaulk my tires to find out for sure if i'm stickin or spinnin. oh an i have spring clamps on all the time.

[JohnnyHemi]

yep they are longer and have better weight transfer, RCs tend to swing their ass out a little bit

[SharaDon]

yep they are longer and have better weight transfer, RCs tend to swing their ass out a little bit

I'm not going to agree with your statment.

The longer the wheel base the worse the transfer

[sawcut64]

I'm not going to agree with your statment.

The longer the wheel base the worse the transfer

X2.....

[JohnnyHemi]

let me re phrase, they are heavier and longer they are the more stable, is that better? i mean if the wheelbase was different on 2 EQUAL weight vehicles than it would make a more substantial difference, but since the QCs are heavier wouldnt that mean they have more weight on the rear axel? Seriously id like to know?

[Darell]

let me re phrase, they are heavier and longer they are the more stable, is that better? i mean if the wheelbase was different on 2 EQUAL weight vehicles than it would make a more substantial difference, but since the QCs are heavier wouldnt that mean they have more weight on the rear axel? Seriously id like to know?

I found a page a few weeks ago that listed curb weights per axle on the trucks (not axle ratings) The QC models had barely more on the rear than the RC with most of the additional weight on the front. I will try to find it again.

[RandTx]

randy how fat do you think i am or is your calculator broke i only wiegh 230 on a bad day and usually 225. that puts my curb wieght this past weekend at 4400 lbs. i have about 150 lbs i know i can drop or at least think i can drop so that would make this next weekend 4250.
Hehe sorry about that...
swore I guessed 250 and you said 280.
only 150? Again thought you had some wild look in you eye when said under lbs next week....Just as well cause I don't see how you are going to get that and still get the truck back together for the next day.

Finally got the roll bar back on last night after much aggravation and multiple trips to home depot. Still didn't' get the switch lighting done so lights still no workie.
Think I'm going to race at about 5150 lbs Sunday sure hope we have good air that's going to cost me a couple of tenths but I'm also thinking of using up the last few passes on my old smaller DR's so maybe it will balance out. Unfortunately I didn't make the track last night and have run those DR's a few months. Hope I can still make em hook.

[RandTx]

I found a page a few weeks ago that listed curb weights per axle on the trucks (not axle ratings) The QC models had barely more on the rear than the RC with most of the additional weight on the front. I will try to find it again.

I did a 4 pt scale at the track of my QC in street trim me in it year or so back

Front left: 1667
Front right 1532
Rear left 1224
Rear left 1210
Total weight 5628 lbs
Total fronts 3200 (57% of total)
Total rear 2498 (43% of total

Adam did his RC same day , I think his came out to something like
total fronts 3400 lbs 72% on fronts
total rears 1200 lbs 28% on the rear.

Now I think he was tailgate off and a roll pan, vs I had tailgate on tonneau cover, roll bar, hitch ,and bumper.
All that is on the rear axle, but those items are only total about 300 lbs of the difference

[steelhorse5778]

well i think i now old a record for the lightest QC in the world me and randy did a wieght reduction clinic this weekend truck wieghed in at 4445 with me in it. front wieght was 2750 and the rear was 1695.

[sawcut64]

well i think i now old a record for the lightest QC in the world me and randy did a wieght reduction clinic this weekend truck wieghed in at 4445 with me in it. front wieght was 2750 and the rear was 1695.

So that made your truck's weight 4215 without you? Last time out it was 4400 so you dropped a shatload. What exactly did you do this time?

[dline]

well i think i now old a record for the lightest QC in the world me and randy did a wieght reduction clinic this weekend truck wieghed in at 4445 with me in it. front wieght was 2750 and the rear was 1695.

should get 12s at that weight!

[dr.ruff84]

what did you cut out to drop the weight????

[kc1219]

..will be going to the track on May 9th out here in california. I am curious about how much my reg. cab weighs after the rollpan install. Fred(chefred112)will probably be there with his QC,I'm not sure if he's weighed it after his rollpan install... I will take some notes and post up afterwards...

[steelhorse5778]

So that made your truck's weight 4215 without you? Last time out it was 4400 so you dropped a shatload. What exactly did you do this time?

aside from the usual seats, tailgate, and spare we removed the bed liner,carpet,door panels, seatbelts, and trim peices. we also removed the stereo and speaker, and the heat shield for my intake.

[steelhorse5778]

should get 12s at that weight!


well i ran a 13.13 @103.28mph but the da was 2112 so if i would have had the air i had last week i think it woiuld have been done.

[Hemidup]

12's with good air. Have any slips to post?

[steelhorse5778]

i'll try and do it tonight.

[HemiRamOn22s]

dline runs 12s at full weight and QC guys are pulling everything they can off their trucks to run the same times. Just make your times look that much better dave! congrats!

[dline]

thanks!

[steelhorse5778]

dline runs 12s at full weight and QC guys are pulling everything they can off their trucks to run the same times. Just make your times look that much better dave! congrats!


no doubt dave is fast but your trying to compare apples to pineapples. yes thier both dodges and yes they both have motors ut there is a big wieght difference and there's a difference in wieght transfer. i have no doubt ifmine wasa sc i'd be able to get it under 4000 lbs without me in it. but like i said to you over on dt i've probrably put more blood sweat and tears into my truck in the past 3 months than you have in 2 years and if you wanna run what ya brung theres tracks down here open all the time id be glad to school you anytime. by the way guys heres the slip.

[sawcut64]

no doubt dave is fast but your trying to compare apples to pineapples. yes thier both dodges and yes they both have motors ut there is a big wieght difference and there's a difference in wieght transfer. i have no doubt ifmine wasa sc i'd be able to get it under 4000 lbs without me in it. but like i said to you over on dt i've probrably put more blood sweat and tears into my truck in the past 3 months than you have in 2 years and if you wanna run what ya brung theres tracks down here open all the time id be glad to school you anytime. by the way guys heres the slip.

LOL...go get em' bro!!!! :peelout:

[steelhorse5778]

Congrats. I know you have a pretty good combo now go out there and kick those cali boys ases and get into the 12s

Dave is 4wd and weighs 4800lbs at the minimum

what areb his mods?

[dline]

-4.56s
-Electric fan
-268 Comp cam
-JM big valve heads
-Long tube headers
-3" true duals and x pipe, dumped
-3000 stall APS converter
-Ramhammer
-2/4 drop

12.997 in 300 da

[steelhorse5778]

ok well that explains alot. i'm still awaiting 4:56's, i got stock valve heads, andi don't have a stall.

[HemiRamOn22s]

no doubt dave is fast but your trying to compare apples to pineapples. yes thier both dodges and yes they both have motors ut there is a big wieght difference and there's a difference in wieght transfer. i have no doubt ifmine wasa sc i'd be able to get it under 4000 lbs without me in it. but like i said to you over on dt i've probrably put more blood sweat and tears into my truck in the past 3 months than you have in 2 years and if you wanna run what ya brung theres tracks down here open all the time id be glad to school you anytime. by the way guys heres the slip.
yea ok. you have no idea what you are talking about. ive been through 4 different types of tuning, 3 transmissions, more broken parts then i can count, 3 sets of heads, 5 or 6 different exhuast setups, and lots of blood sweat and tears. Ive been a pioneer to many methods of tuning, cams, etc. Im glad you could copy someone elses setup and pull everything possible out of your truck in search of 12s. Dave's truck is bad ass. Credit needs to be give where credit is due. Most of the LX guys run in full street trim. It just shows you that you need to remove weight to make up for your lack of power.

[dline]

get a stall converter, don't know how this turned into comparing my truck to yours......good luck tonight!:peelout:

wish i could get my 4x4 brick wall as low as a 2wd.

i did see you asking about power to get a 4900 pound truck to a 12.99

its been done my 4800 pound truck did a 12.99
HP = Weight * (MPH / 234) ^3
= 421.40hp

i dynoed 343 rwhp on a dynojet, with my cutouts open and shortbelt i'd probably be 361rwhp, and yet that'd be lower than most dynoed, and i'm still faster lol

1/8 mile calculators don't always work either:
8.33 @ 87mph for me 1/8 mile (same as others) on the 12.997 @ 104 1/4 mile (faster than lots) hp and 4.56s rock, revving 6600 rpms all day long

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html#0

[sawcut64]

yea ok. you have no idea what you are talking about. ive been through 4 different types of tuning, 3 transmissions, more broken parts then i can count, 3 sets of heads, 5 or 6 different exhuast setups, and lots of blood sweat and tears. Ive been a pioneer to many methods of tuning, cams, etc. Im glad you could copy someone elses setup and pull everything possible out of your truck in search of 12s. Dave's truck is bad ass. Credit needs to be give where credit is due. Most of the LX guys run in full street trim. It just shows you that you need to remove weight to make up for your lack of power.

Wow you sure talk a lot of shit for someone that's still running 14's? Dave's truck is badazz and the LX cars don't have our aerodynamic and weight deficiencies, so what's your point? You seem like a decent kid, but when someone comes on and is proud of what they've accomplished, you don't dump on it....

[steelhorse5778]

yea ok. you have no idea what you are talking about. ive been through 4 different types of tuning, 3 transmissions, more broken parts then i can count, 3 sets of heads, 5 or 6 different exhuast setups, and lots of blood sweat and tears. Ive been a pioneer to many methods of tuning, cams, etc. Im glad you could copy someone elses setup and pull everything possible out of your truck in search of 12s. Dave's truck is bad ass. Credit needs to be give where credit is due. Most of the LX guys run in full street trim. It just shows you that you need to remove weight to make up for your lack of power.

well with all that work you should have absolutely no problem beating my ass in the 1/4 mile. and i bet you can't find one single person who's running even close to my setup. i didn't copy anybody. everything i've done was based on alot of reading and trying small things others haven't. and since you obviously have alot of money to blow on you truck why don't you come on down to texas and bet a paycheck. n/a run what ya brung thats if ya got the ballz.

[steelhorse5778]

get a stall converter, don't know how this turned into comparing my truck to yours......good luck tonight!:peelout:

wish i could get my 4x4 brick wall as low as a 2wd.

i did see you asking about power to get a 4900 pound truck to a 12.99

its been done my 4800 pound truck did a 12.99
HP = Weight * (MPH / 234) ^3
= 421.40hp

i dynoed 343 rwhp on a dynojet, with my cutouts open and shortbelt i'd probably be 361rwhp, and yet that'd be lower than most dynoed, and i'm still faster lol

1/8 mile calculators don't always work either:
8.33 @ 87mph for me 1/8 mile (same as others) on the 12.997 @ 104 1/4 mile (faster than lots) hp and 4.56s rock, revving 6600 rpms all day long

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html#0


sorry dave didn't mean for you to get dragged into this. the point is the timeslip is a direct result of effort. he wants to compare me to others and thats fine i got big shoulders. if i wanted a setup like everyone elses i woulda been in the 12's a long time ago. the whole point in us coming to these sites is to go faster who gives a ratz fat ass how we get there so long as everybody is getting there.

[sawcut64]

exactly who gives a shit as long as your going fast. At least your willing to tell us your doing a lot of weight reduction, some people will never own up to it even though their times clearly reflect it.

Boy I sure hope you're not directing that at me. My weight reduction consists of.....

Roll pan
No spare
No jack
No center console and passenger seat
No heat shield on my CAI
No tail gate
No bed cover
Lighter weight 17" rims
Removed front sway bar

And you can ask anyone that's seen my truck and they'll tell you the same thing.

[steelhorse5778]

exactly who gives a shit as long as your going fast. At least your willing to tell us your doing a lot of weight reduction, some people will never own up to it even though their times clearly reflect it.


amen to that.

[sawcut64]

Oh and that plastic package tray behind the seat is gone as well.

[sawcut64]

It wasn't directed at anyone just a general statement.

Yeah sure ya young punk!!!! :finger2:

[JohnnyHemi]

its simple, everyone thinks THEIR method is better! And how many different tunning methods did you pioneer, SCT, DSP, or PSC, SMT? which one of those did you pioneer.

[steelhorse5778]

its simple, everyone thinks THEIR method is better! And how many different tunning methods did you pioneer, SCT, DSP, or PSC, SMT? which one of those did you pioneer.

also makes ya wonder how many cams he designed, transmissions he built, and heads he ported all of which must not of been that good if he's still having trouble getting into the 13's.

[JohnnyHemi]

im not saying his truck aint fast, i remember him on DT and his truck looked pretty fast i dont think he has been to the track in a while so im not going to say what he can run and wont.

On a side note, dont you have a spartan max, and some inertia heads? and i got banned before i could see if you got your tuning cleared up with DSP?

[proudhemi]

He's just got the fastest 14sec truck in the world, END OF STORY. :)

[HemiRamOn22s]

He's just got the fastest 14sec truck in the world, END OF STORY. :)
last i remember it was you that was afraid to go to the track :finger2:

[proudhemi]

Rrriighht. :crazy:

[proudhemi]

You need one too..

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/proudhemi/433.jpg

[HemiRamOn22s]

also makes ya wonder how many cams he designed, transmissions he built, and heads he ported all of which must not of been that good if he's still having trouble getting into the 13's.
Its must be those awesome FRI heads you have! the same ones that you have to drop 500lbs to make up for all of that power they gave you!

Ricky ran 13.28 with no heads with the same cam at 5000 lbs. You dropped 500 lbs and added some heads. and ran .15 faster. Good Job! They must be working wonders. You should of stuck with some proven heads.

[steelhorse5778]

im not saying his truck aint fast, i remember him on DT and his truck looked pretty fast i dont think he has been to the track in a while so im not going to say what he can run and wont.

On a side note, dont you have a spartan max, and some inertia heads? and i got banned before i could see if you got your tuning cleared up with DSP?


no i have a hellfire and sharadon heads and the tuning is coming along awsome just need some final tweeks to it but need a a/f that dtalogs to get it done.

[steelhorse5778]

Its must be those awesome FRI heads you have! the same ones that you have to drop 500lbs to make up for all of that power they gave you!

Ricky ran 13.28 with no heads with the same cam at 5000 lbs. You dropped 500 lbs and added some heads. and ran .15 faster. Good Job! They must be working wonders. You should of stuck with some proven heads.


that shows how stupid you are first off i don't have fri heads second of all ricky truck is fast no doubt i've been in it but his 13.28 was in negitive 1200 da come back again when you have a fucking clue what the fuck you are talking about because your only making yourself look like a dumb ass but im sure it's just natural for you. oh and on a side note ricky's already said if he gets heads they will be fri heads. hell i ran 13.78 in the quarter before i had headers, cam, or heads and that was N/A.

[HemiRamOn22s]

well you refused to tell us your mods like its some big secret. some one posted you had FRI heads on DT so that was only what i heard.

Im done with this thread. good luck on your quest for 12s.

[JohnnyHemi]

its not hard to get into 12s it just takes effort! and some slicks :)

[RandTx]

Originally Posted by HemiRamOn22s
yea ok. you have no idea what you are talking about. ive been through 4 different types of tuning, 3 transmissions, more broken parts then i can count, 3 sets of heads, 5 or 6 different exhuast setups, and lots of blood sweat and tears. Ive been a pioneer to many methods of tuning, cams, etc. Im glad you could copy someone elses setup and pull everything possible out of your truck in search of 12s. Dave's truck is bad ass. Credit needs to be give where credit is due. Most of the LX guys run in full street trim. It just shows you that you need to remove weight to make up for your lack of power..

Does sound like you probably have wasted more time and money in search of getting a QC under 14's than anyone I've heard of.
Not quite sure why you are bragging about that fact though...

[dr.ruff84]

i could care less about how much weight someone drops to get good times. But for you to say you have more blood sweat and tears in your truck then anyone else, is ridiculous.

I would have to say anyone that installs their own shit has more then you. I have nothing against you, but i am just saying pulling the inside stuff like seats and carpet and all the weight reduction stuff isn't like changing cams and stuff.

I installed everything on my truck BY MY SELF. With no lift. just hand tools and a jack.

Try doing a cam, 3000 stall and everything else in my sig on a 4x4 by your self, then you can compare who has more blood sweat and tears in their rig.

I do give props for getting such a good time, not trying to start and pissing contest just stating some facts.

[JohnnyHemi]

my e penis is bigger than your e penis

[sawcut64]

time working on your own junk....I got you all beat there :finger:

I got everybody beat, not only do I work on my junk but everyone else's!!! :D

[JohnnyHemi]

i do valvejobs every week and i work on junk every day! 9 hours a day

[dr.ruff84]

i think you mispelled that BLOW not valve :dance:

[HemiRamOn22s]

I got everybody beat, not only do I work on my junk but everyone else's!!! :D
as do i:dance:

[JohnnyHemi]

i think you mispelled that BLOW not valve :dance: lol you would know all about doing blowjobs:fu:

[JohnnyHemi]

time working on your own junk....I got you all beat there :finger:

im glad i dont have junk so i dont have to be working on it all the time :finger2:

[dr.ruff84]

lol you would know all about doing blowjobs:fu:

yeah i would, i saw that tutorial you posted the other day. :devil:



:finger2: :dance:

[JohnnyHemi]

i plagerized it from your book of blowjob techniques

[sawcut64]

lol....

[steelhorse5778]

i could care less about how much weight someone drops to get good times. But for you to say you have more blood sweat and tears in your truck then anyone else, is ridiculous.

I would have to say anyone that installs their own shit has more then you. I have nothing against you, but i am just saying pulling the inside stuff like seats and carpet and all the weight reduction stuff isn't like changing cams and stuff.

I installed everything on my truck BY MY SELF. With no lift. just hand tools and a jack.

Try doing a cam, 3000 stall and everything else in my sig on a 4x4 by your self, then you can compare who has more blood sweat and tears in their rig.

I do give props for getting such a good time, not trying to start and pissing contest just stating some facts.

the point i was trying to make with that statement isn't that others don't put in alot of effort into thier trucks. my point was he tried to make it sound like all i did was remove some wieght and get a good time. the fact is in the last 6 months i've done headers, rollpan,heads, cam, lots of body work, numerous track preps, lots of tweeks, a torque converter, and alot of other shit just to get faster. and of course sam did my heads and cam but i was right there with him the whole time learning all i could and doing as much as i could as we went. but to have him come in and dismiss my times that i worked really fucking hard for is bullshit and i felt the need to put him in his place. there was no disrespect ment to anyone who works hard for what they get.

[dr.ruff84]

and i agree with you, no matter how you get low times, they are what they are low. I guess i missread your posts, or the meaning of your posts.

[JohnnyHemi]

yeah ruff you asshole! now say you're sorry

[dr.ruff84]

eat me you rat infested asshole

[dr.ruff84]

sorry i forgot the banana :dance:

[JohnnyHemi]

you suck

[HemiRamOn22s]

the point i was trying to make with that statement isn't that others don't put in alot of effort into thier trucks. my point was he tried to make it sound like all i did was remove some wieght and get a good time. the fact is in the last 6 months i've done headers, rollpan,heads, cam, lots of body work, numerous track preps, lots of tweeks, a torque converter, and alot of other shit just to get faster. and of course sam did my heads and cam but i was right there with him the whole time learning all i could and doing as much as i could as we went. but to have him come in and dismiss my times that i worked really fucking hard for is bullshit and i felt the need to put him in his place. there was no disrespect ment to anyone who works hard for what they get.
ok well maybe you should rephrase what you said... "You didnt put alot of blood sweat and tears into your truck, you just put alot of money" :Tup:

[adamsredlines]

I prefer to do most of my work myself, but give the guy a break, ya gotta learn sometime. Sounds to me like he is trying to learn so he chose someone to do the install who would help teach him. Knocking him because he didnt do the install is just petty. I think its safe to say that at one point in time, you had no clue how to do anything on a motor either....and that you learned somewhere/somehow. I'll also be willing to bet that he knows a skill that you would be absolutely clueless about...so who gives a shit?
Seems like you're just trying to pick a fight now. Lame.

[crazeejay]

This whole thread is lame anymore.

[dayton hemi]

ok well maybe you should rephrase what you said... "You didnt put alot of blood sweat and tears into your truck, you just put alot of money" :Tup:

all that blood, sweat, tears, and all that experience you keep talking about, yet still in the 14s? here's a :dance: for ya. i see no problem with stripping a truck, i did it as well as a lot of other people have done it. why does nobody hate on gadier, jay, or brad for stripping their trucks down? is it because they are the fastest, or what? who cares what he takes off to go fast, not everybody has unlimited money like you seem to have matt, yet he is still a full second faster, what gives mr. pioneer, have you ever done anything first?

[dayton hemi]

oh and to steelhorse i wish you the best of luck, and hope you kick ricky's ass

[sawcut64]

"You didnt put alot of blood sweat and tears into your truck, you just put alot of money" :Tup:

Wow maybe thats what you should tell people when they "PM Me for Cam Install Pricing"? Or some other sarcastic downgrading comment? http://horsepowerjunkies.com/smilies/march/shitsweak.gif

[proudhemi]

Hey Matt, who put the cam in your truck?? :dance:

[sawcut64]

Hey Matt, who put the cam in your truck?? :dance:

Yeah I'm pretty sure Gadier did some work on Matt's truck.....

[proudhemi]

Or Luke one, I can't remember which.

[sawcut64]

Luke....
http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181360
Luke again....
http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180779

[steelhorse5778]

ok well maybe you should rephrase what you said... "You didnt put alot of blood sweat and tears into your truck, you just put alot of money" :Tup:


well fist of all dunb shit i have done a cam actually i've done 6 one in each one of the motors i've built from the block up. the only reason i didn't do mine is that i was told by multiple people that the cam in the hemi is a little different so i chose to learn what was different. all the motors i built were fords so i figured i'd listen for once. now that i've helped do it yeah it was a little different but not much. could i have figured it out you bet but why gamble. as far as heads go those are easy only reason sam did them is because i bought them from him and he was already taking shit apart. but the truth is i really don't give a fucking shit what your stupid ass says because you obviously don't have a fucking clue what you are doing or you would at least be in the 13's. hell i did that stock and have witnesses and time slips to prove it. wheres your's.

[tajm]

fail.

[HemiRamOn22s]

well fist of all dunb shit i have done a cam actually i've done 6 one in each one of the motors i've built from the block up. the only reason i didn't do mine is that i was told by multiple people that the cam in the hemi is a little different so i chose to learn what was different. all the motors i built were fords so i figured i'd listen for once. now that i've helped do it yeah it was a little different but not much. could i have figured it out you bet but why gamble. as far as heads go those are easy only reason sam did them is because i bought them from him and he was already taking shit apart. but the truth is i really don't give a fucking shit what your stupid ass says because you obviously don't have a fucking clue what you are doing or you would at least be in the 13's. hell i did that stock and have witnesses and time slips to prove it. wheres your's.
yea ok mike i see how intelligent you are.... what you said makes you look real smart. good job! i ran 14.1 at 5300lbs with tq converter, SC, intake, and cutout on 22s, Im sure my truck is well into the 13s by now. spedly was there to whitness it so there is no speculation. My truck was blowing the tires off that day. I have nothing to prove so there is no need for me to go back to the track. i like my truck for what it is but ill call b/s on someone that has to cheat to achieve the same times that ricky or lonnie or dave achieved with the same mods. sam i understand you stick up for mike bc you did all of the work on his truck but the fact of the matter is that there are alot faster trucks out there then his hp/wt ratio. But what do i know im an idiot compared to the almighty steelhorsey? :cheers:

[HemiRamOn22s]

Yeah I'm pretty sure Gadier did some work on Matt's truck.....
Gadier built my tranny which im sure none of you could do. i removed my tranny had it rebuild and reinstalled it myself. if you guys are really so jealous ill shut every one of you up come this fall when i put your times to shame.

and heath i dont give a fuck what you say you gay little homo fuck. take your truck to the track and then talk some shit or are you afraid of gadiers times? gadier is the most honest dedicated guy on this forum. ive hung out with him numerous times and his truck would put even jerrys truck to shame. its a shame mike had to drop his truck to gadiers weight and still runs slower times. im done with this gay forum and all of the guys sucking dick around here. so peace out. once again i have nothing to prove.